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		<title><![CDATA[Tube Amp Forum: The Ultimate Tone - TUT Q&A]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 11:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Zener Diode in Bias Supply]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Zener-Diode-in-Bias-Supply</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=340">Bassman</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin et al.<br />
<br />
On the Custom Special schematic in TUT3 there is a zener diode (100v, 1w) straddling Vb and ground.<br />
<br />
My amp building experience is limited, I'm used to seeing resistors here.<br />
I believe it's purpose is to provide a stable fixed bias voltage relative to ground.<br />
So if the plate voltage varies for whatever reason, the bias remains the same.<br />
<br />
My question is - Why is this better than the bias following the ups and downs of the plate voltage?<br />
<br />
The amp I am building will hopefully be gigged.<br />
It has a universal power transformer, wired as Kevin suggested at the back of TUT3.<br />
So different countries, different mains voltages and hopefully lots of festivals with dodgy generators and clubs with terrible mains supplies.<br />
<br />
Regards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Kevin et al.<br />
<br />
On the Custom Special schematic in TUT3 there is a zener diode (100v, 1w) straddling Vb and ground.<br />
<br />
My amp building experience is limited, I'm used to seeing resistors here.<br />
I believe it's purpose is to provide a stable fixed bias voltage relative to ground.<br />
So if the plate voltage varies for whatever reason, the bias remains the same.<br />
<br />
My question is - Why is this better than the bias following the ups and downs of the plate voltage?<br />
<br />
The amp I am building will hopefully be gigged.<br />
It has a universal power transformer, wired as Kevin suggested at the back of TUT3.<br />
So different countries, different mains voltages and hopefully lots of festivals with dodgy generators and clubs with terrible mains supplies.<br />
<br />
Regards.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TUT3 Custom Special build]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-TUT3-Custom-Special-build</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 16:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=340">Bassman</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin et al.<br />
<br />
I'm laying out the eyelet board for my TUT3 Custom Special build (again).  Great fun.<br />
<br />
Checking the suggested layout against the improved schematic in TUT3 I see a few discrepencies.<br />
Some of them I can work out, some of them I can't.<br />
<br />
Is this a good place to ask about them?<br />
<br />
Regards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Kevin et al.<br />
<br />
I'm laying out the eyelet board for my TUT3 Custom Special build (again).  Great fun.<br />
<br />
Checking the suggested layout against the improved schematic in TUT3 I see a few discrepencies.<br />
Some of them I can work out, some of them I can't.<br />
<br />
Is this a good place to ask about them?<br />
<br />
Regards.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Heater capacity on 6.3 v Secondary]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Heater-capacity-on-6-3-v-Secondary</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2026 09:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all.<br />
<br />
I am part way through a build of Kevin's Custom Special amplifier from the TUT3 book.  Great circuit.<br />
<br />
Checking my current needs for the 6.3VAC secondary, I calculate 4x 1.5 A for the 6CA7 valves and 3x .3 A for the 12AX7 valves.<br />
Which comes to 6.9 Amperes.<br />
<br />
The rating for the specified Hammond 278CX transformer is 6 Amperes on the 6.3 volt secondary.<br />
<br />
15% over the rated capacity seems a lot to me.  Am I being overly conservative?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all.<br />
<br />
I am part way through a build of Kevin's Custom Special amplifier from the TUT3 book.  Great circuit.<br />
<br />
Checking my current needs for the 6.3VAC secondary, I calculate 4x 1.5 A for the 6CA7 valves and 3x .3 A for the 12AX7 valves.<br />
Which comes to 6.9 Amperes.<br />
<br />
The rating for the specified Hammond 278CX transformer is 6 Amperes on the 6.3 volt secondary.<br />
<br />
15% over the rated capacity seems a lot to me.  Am I being overly conservative?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Tube Reverb PT from Tonnes of Tone]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Tube-Reverb-PT-from-Tonnes-of-Tone</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello.<br />
<br />
I am thinking about building the Tube Reverb from the Tonnes of Tone book.<br />
I am based in Europe so I would need a 230v Primary Power Transformer.<br />
The one suggested in the book is the Hammond 269AX.<br />
<br />
Does anyone know of an equivalent (or suitable) 230v PT ?<br />
<br />
Many thanks<br />
Paul]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello.<br />
<br />
I am thinking about building the Tube Reverb from the Tonnes of Tone book.<br />
I am based in Europe so I would need a 230v Primary Power Transformer.<br />
The one suggested in the book is the Hammond 269AX.<br />
<br />
Does anyone know of an equivalent (or suitable) 230v PT ?<br />
<br />
Many thanks<br />
Paul]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Herzog Output Switching Questions]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Herzog-Output-Switching-Questions</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2024 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin, I have one of those generic made in Canada 'WidowMaker' amps. I used two 5VAC secondary filament transformers reverse back-to-back as an isolation option to make it a little bit safer to operate. Works fine, sounds as you would expect - cheap and low-fi but a useable 'raunchy' tone, easy break up with almost any volume increase.<br />
I also wired it temporarily as a Herzog style overdrive and that worked too.<br />
<br />
I would like to wire it to use one of the three input 1/4" phono jacks on the top panel as the TUT3 Herzog Output (the 3rd input as Output Vol) but I can't figure out how to use a new TRS jack to switch from internally wired-to-speaker to Herzog output. I do not need a bypass switch, just used by default as a combo amp and switched to a Herzog Output.<br />
<br />
Hopefully you may have some suggestions please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Kevin, I have one of those generic made in Canada 'WidowMaker' amps. I used two 5VAC secondary filament transformers reverse back-to-back as an isolation option to make it a little bit safer to operate. Works fine, sounds as you would expect - cheap and low-fi but a useable 'raunchy' tone, easy break up with almost any volume increase.<br />
I also wired it temporarily as a Herzog style overdrive and that worked too.<br />
<br />
I would like to wire it to use one of the three input 1/4" phono jacks on the top panel as the TUT3 Herzog Output (the 3rd input as Output Vol) but I can't figure out how to use a new TRS jack to switch from internally wired-to-speaker to Herzog output. I do not need a bypass switch, just used by default as a combo amp and switched to a Herzog Output.<br />
<br />
Hopefully you may have some suggestions please?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Grid Circuit Impedance]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi!<br />
<br />
In TUT2, figure 2-62 we're shown a "typical bias supply":<br />
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<img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/attachtypes/image.png" title="JPG Image" border="0" alt=".jpg" />
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It's stated that the impedance of the supply is about 1k || 15k at balance, or about 1k. I need to work out the supply impedance for the bias supply I'm building in an amp, so I want to make sure that I understand how this calculation was done in the book.<br />
<br />
First, is the diode assumed to be a short? Otherwise the 1k resistor is isolated. Is this because in thermal runaway, (conventional) current would flow out of the grid into the bias network, so from that perspective the diode would be forward-biased if there is enough current flowing to develop a diode-drop's worth of voltage across it?<br />
<br />
Second, how come the resistance of the centertapped pot is ignored? At balance, the current from the grid has to flow through 5k to the centertap and wiper, then out to the 1k and 15k assuming the diode is forward biased, so the supply impedance would be (1k || 15k) + 5k ~= 6k. Admittedly the answer isn't <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">that</span> different, so maybe that was why it wasn't accounted for?<br />
<br />
Also, how come the 70u capacitor doesn't factor in? Elsewhere in the TUTs, it's stated that if we have to increase the resistances to get adequate bias voltages, we can drop caps from the bias wipers to ground to get a good AC ground for the grids. Wouldn't the 70u cap act similarly, meaning that the supply impedance is just half of the center-tapped pot at most, so about 5k?<br />
<br />
Sorry if it seems like I'm being nitpicky, I just want to make sure I understand the thought process behind the calculation so I have a better idea of how to go about the calculations for my own projects.<br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi!<br />
<br />
In TUT2, figure 2-62 we're shown a "typical bias supply":<br />
<br />

<br />
<img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/attachtypes/image.png" title="JPG Image" border="0" alt=".jpg" />
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<br />
It's stated that the impedance of the supply is about 1k || 15k at balance, or about 1k. I need to work out the supply impedance for the bias supply I'm building in an amp, so I want to make sure that I understand how this calculation was done in the book.<br />
<br />
First, is the diode assumed to be a short? Otherwise the 1k resistor is isolated. Is this because in thermal runaway, (conventional) current would flow out of the grid into the bias network, so from that perspective the diode would be forward-biased if there is enough current flowing to develop a diode-drop's worth of voltage across it?<br />
<br />
Second, how come the resistance of the centertapped pot is ignored? At balance, the current from the grid has to flow through 5k to the centertap and wiper, then out to the 1k and 15k assuming the diode is forward biased, so the supply impedance would be (1k || 15k) + 5k ~= 6k. Admittedly the answer isn't <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">that</span> different, so maybe that was why it wasn't accounted for?<br />
<br />
Also, how come the 70u capacitor doesn't factor in? Elsewhere in the TUTs, it's stated that if we have to increase the resistances to get adequate bias voltages, we can drop caps from the bias wipers to ground to get a good AC ground for the grids. Wouldn't the 70u cap act similarly, meaning that the supply impedance is just half of the center-tapped pot at most, so about 5k?<br />
<br />
Sorry if it seems like I'm being nitpicky, I just want to make sure I understand the thought process behind the calculation so I have a better idea of how to go about the calculations for my own projects.<br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TUT5 Swede power supply arrangement]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-TUT5-Swede-power-supply-arrangement</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all<br />
<br />
I tried building the Swede power supply to power my next build but I haven't been very lucky<br />
<br />
<br />
As far as I understand the schematic in fig 18-2, it's a full wave rectifier bridge, one side provides the B+ supply to the amp and the other side provides the negative voltage for the bias supply, that's why 2 diodes are reversed, and the CT is connected to ground. However, in a 4 diode bridge configuration the CT isn't normally used as far as I know (I did blow a few fuses discovering that) So i'm not sure I understand the schematic properly. Maybe someone can enlighten me? <br />
So far my build is only blowing fuses and would love to understand why <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/biggrin.png" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" class="smilie smilie_4" /> <br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Sarah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all<br />
<br />
I tried building the Swede power supply to power my next build but I haven't been very lucky<br />
<br />
<br />
As far as I understand the schematic in fig 18-2, it's a full wave rectifier bridge, one side provides the B+ supply to the amp and the other side provides the negative voltage for the bias supply, that's why 2 diodes are reversed, and the CT is connected to ground. However, in a 4 diode bridge configuration the CT isn't normally used as far as I know (I did blow a few fuses discovering that) So i'm not sure I understand the schematic properly. Maybe someone can enlighten me? <br />
So far my build is only blowing fuses and would love to understand why <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/biggrin.png" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" class="smilie smilie_4" /> <br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Sarah]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Cathode Bias Rk Recommended  Values ?]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Cathode-Bias-Rk-Recommended-Values</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2024 02:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[After reading TUT and seeing the higher Rk values in the TUT5 projects I've begun questioning the lower more traditional values seen in Fender, Vox, Valco, and other vintage amps.  For example, I've measured the dissipation in a Fender 5E3 style deluxe to be about 45ma per 6V6 with 250 ohm resistor.  The plate minus cathode voltage is about 390 VDC so it's running the tubes much higher that 100% dissipation.  The tubes are really cooking or I am missing something?  Why did so many vintage amp have such low values for Rk? <br />
<br />
I've experimented with using a 470 ohm shared resistor which makes the tube set had run at about 33ma per tube. <br />
<br />
I'm just wonder what other people's experiences how they prefer to select the Rk value?  What values are good starting points for common power tubes?<br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[After reading TUT and seeing the higher Rk values in the TUT5 projects I've begun questioning the lower more traditional values seen in Fender, Vox, Valco, and other vintage amps.  For example, I've measured the dissipation in a Fender 5E3 style deluxe to be about 45ma per 6V6 with 250 ohm resistor.  The plate minus cathode voltage is about 390 VDC so it's running the tubes much higher that 100% dissipation.  The tubes are really cooking or I am missing something?  Why did so many vintage amp have such low values for Rk? <br />
<br />
I've experimented with using a 470 ohm shared resistor which makes the tube set had run at about 33ma per tube. <br />
<br />
I'm just wonder what other people's experiences how they prefer to select the Rk value?  What values are good starting points for common power tubes?<br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Wiring ground stars and other busy junctions]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Wiring-ground-stars-and-other-busy-junctions</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2023 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello<br />
 I've been reading this forum for a while, and finally decided to join in.<br />
 When I built my first amp, a Portaflex copy as per TUT3, I found that wherever I had more than 4 or 5 wires going to the same eyelet it got quite messy. Not surprisingly I ended up with some bad solder joints to track down. What I ended up doing was replacing the eyelets in question with machine screws mounted through the same holes in the eyelet board. I then soldered ring terminals onto the ends of the leads and bolted them together. It solved the problem and I used the same approach when I built my second amp.<br />
 My question is what do <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">you</span> do when you want to connect a lot of things in one spot? I've never seen wires bolted to the board in anyone else's amps, but I've never seen eight wires trying to cram into one eyelet, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello<br />
 I've been reading this forum for a while, and finally decided to join in.<br />
 When I built my first amp, a Portaflex copy as per TUT3, I found that wherever I had more than 4 or 5 wires going to the same eyelet it got quite messy. Not surprisingly I ended up with some bad solder joints to track down. What I ended up doing was replacing the eyelets in question with machine screws mounted through the same holes in the eyelet board. I then soldered ring terminals onto the ends of the leads and bolted them together. It solved the problem and I used the same approach when I built my second amp.<br />
 My question is what do <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">you</span> do when you want to connect a lot of things in one spot? I've never seen wires bolted to the board in anyone else's amps, but I've never seen eight wires trying to cram into one eyelet, either.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[FX loops: When does an amp need one??]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-FX-loops-When-does-an-amp-need-one</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=54">makinrose</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Over the years I've installed a number of mixing FX loops based on the TUT Best All Tube FX Loops with a lot of success and find that design to be transparent and more useful than the serial loops in many amps.  I like the idea that the dry path isn't going through all the buffers, mixing circuits, etc. in the pedals as well. <br />
<br />
In general, I've only thought an FX loop is needed in higher gain amps but more and more I'm seeing them lower gain amps (Bassmans, Plexis, etc) and get requests to install them in.  At what level of gain is there enough benefit to warrant the effort?  I was hoping I could get some guidance  and opinions on the matter.  Thanks everyone for the help!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Over the years I've installed a number of mixing FX loops based on the TUT Best All Tube FX Loops with a lot of success and find that design to be transparent and more useful than the serial loops in many amps.  I like the idea that the dry path isn't going through all the buffers, mixing circuits, etc. in the pedals as well. <br />
<br />
In general, I've only thought an FX loop is needed in higher gain amps but more and more I'm seeing them lower gain amps (Bassmans, Plexis, etc) and get requests to install them in.  At what level of gain is there enough benefit to warrant the effort?  I was hoping I could get some guidance  and opinions on the matter.  Thanks everyone for the help!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Cathode bypass capacitor]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Cathode-bypass-capacitor</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=206">Champ81</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I had a question regarding the cathode bypass capacitor.  Whether in preamp or power amp sections.  I know and have witnessed how it affects the tone of the amp and increase gain. From my current knowledge it compensates for the frequency loss due to the resistor allowing certain frequencies to pass through depending on the value.  My understanding is the cathode resistor value determines how hot or cold the tube is biased. So essentially the amount of electrons that emit from the cathode. Higher value resistors emit less and vice versa. The grid is sort of like a valve that controls how much of the electrons go from cathode to anode (the plate).   <br />
<br />
If I got that part correct I don't understand how a cathode is associated with the frequencies it let's through.  Because isn't it the grid where the guitar signal goes into?<br />
<br />
I cannot visually understand it. I have heard from others a DC current flows from the ground through the cathode resistor to the cathode of the tube.   Bit how van current flow from ground because the ground there is no current? I know ground is all relative but this is circuit ground to the chassis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I had a question regarding the cathode bypass capacitor.  Whether in preamp or power amp sections.  I know and have witnessed how it affects the tone of the amp and increase gain. From my current knowledge it compensates for the frequency loss due to the resistor allowing certain frequencies to pass through depending on the value.  My understanding is the cathode resistor value determines how hot or cold the tube is biased. So essentially the amount of electrons that emit from the cathode. Higher value resistors emit less and vice versa. The grid is sort of like a valve that controls how much of the electrons go from cathode to anode (the plate).   <br />
<br />
If I got that part correct I don't understand how a cathode is associated with the frequencies it let's through.  Because isn't it the grid where the guitar signal goes into?<br />
<br />
I cannot visually understand it. I have heard from others a DC current flows from the ground through the cathode resistor to the cathode of the tube.   Bit how van current flow from ground because the ground there is no current? I know ground is all relative but this is circuit ground to the chassis.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TUT5 Standard Reverb]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-TUT5-Standard-Reverb</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=87">sinusoids</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[What are the reverb tank specs for the Standard amp?  What transformer is used?  Fig 9.3 references a 316 driver transformer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[What are the reverb tank specs for the Standard amp?  What transformer is used?  Fig 9.3 references a 316 driver transformer.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Speaker blending in symmetric stage setups]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Speaker-blending-in-symmetric-stage-setups</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=330">physics</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello!<br />
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I finally have a chance to try out symmetric stage setups in a band context. However, all of the cabs will have different speakers or speaker blends due to what speakers I own and can load into the cabs, impedance concerns, and what is already loaded into the other guitar players' cabs. I wanted to ask if any of you can provide advice on how speaker blending affects the outcome of symmetric setups. My guess is it would be optimal for either two cabs per player that are different but complimentary, or for two that are as similar as possible. For the former, experience with recording and mixing different complimentary speakers would seem to imply that a fuller sound would result. However, the psycho-acoustic effect mentioned in TUT where the listener/player feels like they're <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">in</span> the sound because of two separated sources would seem to imply that the more difference there is between the two cabs, the less they would be sources of the "same" sound and thus the effect might be weaker.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Technical details, if it matters:</span><br />
The cab pairing is going to be a 1x12 in parallel with a 4x12, and a 2x12 in parallel with a half-empty 4x12. The 2x12 has a eminence swamp thang and celestion g12h 70th anniversary, wired in parallel for 8 ohms net. The 1x12 has a 16 ohm Celestion 70-80. These two cabs aren't mine, so I am not able to control the speakers loaded in them.The speakers I own and can load into the 4x12's (which <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">are</span> mine) are 1x16 Ohm Vintage 30, 1x16 Ohm Marshall G12 Vintage, 4x16 Ohm Peavey Sheffield 1290. The 2x12 cab will be paired with the half-loaded 4x12, and the 1x12 with the fully-loaded 4x12, because of impedance concerns.<br />
<br />
There aren't too many permutations possible, so worst case I can probably try all the options in a band context and see how it sounds, but I do wonder if there are any general guidelines for this beyond just separating the cabs.<br />
<br />
Thanks for any input!<br />
<br />
P.S. Here's a video showing and comparing the three speakers I own. It inspired the selection of the speakers I now own. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciye74KoFo" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciye74KoFo</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello!<br />
<br />
I finally have a chance to try out symmetric stage setups in a band context. However, all of the cabs will have different speakers or speaker blends due to what speakers I own and can load into the cabs, impedance concerns, and what is already loaded into the other guitar players' cabs. I wanted to ask if any of you can provide advice on how speaker blending affects the outcome of symmetric setups. My guess is it would be optimal for either two cabs per player that are different but complimentary, or for two that are as similar as possible. For the former, experience with recording and mixing different complimentary speakers would seem to imply that a fuller sound would result. However, the psycho-acoustic effect mentioned in TUT where the listener/player feels like they're <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">in</span> the sound because of two separated sources would seem to imply that the more difference there is between the two cabs, the less they would be sources of the "same" sound and thus the effect might be weaker.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Technical details, if it matters:</span><br />
The cab pairing is going to be a 1x12 in parallel with a 4x12, and a 2x12 in parallel with a half-empty 4x12. The 2x12 has a eminence swamp thang and celestion g12h 70th anniversary, wired in parallel for 8 ohms net. The 1x12 has a 16 ohm Celestion 70-80. These two cabs aren't mine, so I am not able to control the speakers loaded in them.The speakers I own and can load into the 4x12's (which <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">are</span> mine) are 1x16 Ohm Vintage 30, 1x16 Ohm Marshall G12 Vintage, 4x16 Ohm Peavey Sheffield 1290. The 2x12 cab will be paired with the half-loaded 4x12, and the 1x12 with the fully-loaded 4x12, because of impedance concerns.<br />
<br />
There aren't too many permutations possible, so worst case I can probably try all the options in a band context and see how it sounds, but I do wonder if there are any general guidelines for this beyond just separating the cabs.<br />
<br />
Thanks for any input!<br />
<br />
P.S. Here's a video showing and comparing the three speakers I own. It inspired the selection of the speakers I now own. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciye74KoFo" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciye74KoFo</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[LPSP settings]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2022 17:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=87">sinusoids</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'd like to know how others set their LPSP.  Any comments on the application would great.  <br />
<br />
My most used amp is the LPSP driving the PA in ToT (similar to a fixed bias 5E3 PA with MV) with 6V6s.  I play an SG with P-90s with vol between 9 and 6, mostly on the neck.  This amp is played with a band so is set bright to get through.  I use a pedal for vol boost on leads so the two channels are used for 2 rhythm tones.  So vol is roughly the same for both channels.<br />
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             V    H      M    L     D<br />
Clean    5     8     1.5  5.5<br />
Lead    3.5   8.5   4   4.5  8.5<br />
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26 years ago today I purchased TUT at Antique Elec Supply in Tempe.  Thank you Kevin, for publishing these, sharing the info and answering SO many questions. 26 years of fun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'd like to know how others set their LPSP.  Any comments on the application would great.  <br />
<br />
My most used amp is the LPSP driving the PA in ToT (similar to a fixed bias 5E3 PA with MV) with 6V6s.  I play an SG with P-90s with vol between 9 and 6, mostly on the neck.  This amp is played with a band so is set bright to get through.  I use a pedal for vol boost on leads so the two channels are used for 2 rhythm tones.  So vol is roughly the same for both channels.<br />
<br />
             V    H      M    L     D<br />
Clean    5     8     1.5  5.5<br />
Lead    3.5   8.5   4   4.5  8.5<br />
<br />
<br />
26 years ago today I purchased TUT at Antique Elec Supply in Tempe.  Thank you Kevin, for publishing these, sharing the info and answering SO many questions. 26 years of fun.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Output Transformer Primary Impedance Affect on Tone]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Output-Transformer-Primary-Impedance-Affect-on-Tone</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 04:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=54">makinrose</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I was reading TUT4 (I think) that details various transformer set combinations for 50W amps.  With that section was statement about how some builders/players favor the sound of high impedance primaries over lower ones and visa versa.  I've experimented with different primary impedances 5E3 designs but I'm not sure if the difference in impedance was great enough to experience a big difference and I didn't do it with two amp sitting side by side. To my ears the higher impedance transformer seemed to sound little softer and warmer but that could have been my imagination. <br />
<br />
What has been other people's experiences? Also given the same supply voltage what effect should we expect between say a higher and lower impedance primary as far as tone? <br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I was reading TUT4 (I think) that details various transformer set combinations for 50W amps.  With that section was statement about how some builders/players favor the sound of high impedance primaries over lower ones and visa versa.  I've experimented with different primary impedances 5E3 designs but I'm not sure if the difference in impedance was great enough to experience a big difference and I didn't do it with two amp sitting side by side. To my ears the higher impedance transformer seemed to sound little softer and warmer but that could have been my imagination. <br />
<br />
What has been other people's experiences? Also given the same supply voltage what effect should we expect between say a higher and lower impedance primary as far as tone? <br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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