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		<title><![CDATA[Tube Amp Forum: The Ultimate Tone - Power Scaling]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 01:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Super Budget Kits Are Back]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Super-Budget-Kits-Are-Back</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Everything old is new again.<br />
<br />
The first DC <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> kits were the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB Super Budget</span> kits: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> for fixed-bias amps and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> for cathode biased amps. These had a very economical circuit and were problem-free to install. Many techs and amp builders still use them and we supply PCBs for them.<br />
<br />
The simple circuit required the use of a potentiometer with special characteristics, and the only way to attain that was to use a mil-spec pot. "Mil-spec" is a misunderstood term inasmuch as most people believe that the part is going to be better and/or last longer than an average part. That can be true but is not always the case. Mil-spec merely means that there is an official description of the part so that parts procurement can be uniform. In the case of the pot, its special characteristic is not contingent on it being mil-spec; rather, it just fell out this way as it was the only part available with the given parameter rating.<br />
<br />
When I began using that pot style, I was getting an extremely good deal on the pricing. I ended up using a few different values and standardised the use of them in my early production amps. But then the prices went up precipitously. "Shock shock horror horror", as the song goes.<br />
<br />
I designed out the expensive pots, which was fine for all the traditional control positions in an amp, but more complicated for Power Scaling. I needed an "amplified pot" and began on a path of designing many different solutions, each with its benefits and pitfalls, with each successive design aiming to improve on what came before. The final solution turned out to be great on paper but fragile in some installations. It eliminated the pot value as a variable in the control range and when I test the circuits here it always works for me. But I'm always lucky  <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
<br />
A couple of very experienced Power Scale installers encountered issues with the latest circuits and I made a decision to go back to the SB approach. It is fail safe. It always works. No one has ever had a problem with it as long as they mount the mosfets in a location where air moves over that part of the chassis. Even while the latest-greatest was going out, I was researching the expensive pot options to see what the impact would be on kit pricing.<br />
<br />
Frankly, I sometimes thought that I should have just raised the kit prices and kept on with the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> as they were.<br />
<br />
One of the issues with the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB</span> approach was that the Power Scale pot did not physically match the Drive Compensation pot. The expensive pot had far fewer options than standard pots do, requiring different knobs, or ending up with the knobs sitting at different heights. The solution is to get a dual version of the expensive pot, which is even more expensive and larger, making finding places for the two controls more difficult on some chassis. The dual could be used for a single-pot Power Scale solution in some circuits.<br />
<br />
Along with looking into the pot availability, I worked on the Automatic Drive Control issue which resulted in two kits to perform the drive compensation automatically. This means there only needs to be one panel control. There is a thread about that on this forum.<br />
<br />
All of the PCBs for the new kits have been ordered.<br />
<br />
Where the old-style SB module boards carry a single mosfet and its related components, the new <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> module has all of the high-voltage circuitry as one module, with any required interconnections already made. The ability to have different Va and Vs voltages is also accommodated. The Power Scale control ties to this, and there are pads to tie into the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> controllers, as required. There is also a provision to change the effective taper of the Power Scale pot to tailor the sweep of loudness to the individual player or amp designer. One of the "discoveries" in the recent search was that the previous variety of tapers is no longer offered.<br />
<br />
The circuit is still economical in complexity by being very simple and not needing too many parts, so circuit density is low. None of the parts are critical yet the end result is precise. The expensive pot has its one special characteristic but is otherwise as imprecise as every other kind of potentiometer, but the circuit designs makes that not matter.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> is an <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> + <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TBS,</span> and only requires the addition of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RBX </span>and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> or <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span> as needed.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> is an <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> + <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VCK</span>, and only requires the addition of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM </span>and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> or <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H </span>as needed.<br />
<br />
I'm considering including the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC</span> in the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> package.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Everything old is new again.<br />
<br />
The first DC <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> kits were the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB Super Budget</span> kits: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> for fixed-bias amps and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> for cathode biased amps. These had a very economical circuit and were problem-free to install. Many techs and amp builders still use them and we supply PCBs for them.<br />
<br />
The simple circuit required the use of a potentiometer with special characteristics, and the only way to attain that was to use a mil-spec pot. "Mil-spec" is a misunderstood term inasmuch as most people believe that the part is going to be better and/or last longer than an average part. That can be true but is not always the case. Mil-spec merely means that there is an official description of the part so that parts procurement can be uniform. In the case of the pot, its special characteristic is not contingent on it being mil-spec; rather, it just fell out this way as it was the only part available with the given parameter rating.<br />
<br />
When I began using that pot style, I was getting an extremely good deal on the pricing. I ended up using a few different values and standardised the use of them in my early production amps. But then the prices went up precipitously. "Shock shock horror horror", as the song goes.<br />
<br />
I designed out the expensive pots, which was fine for all the traditional control positions in an amp, but more complicated for Power Scaling. I needed an "amplified pot" and began on a path of designing many different solutions, each with its benefits and pitfalls, with each successive design aiming to improve on what came before. The final solution turned out to be great on paper but fragile in some installations. It eliminated the pot value as a variable in the control range and when I test the circuits here it always works for me. But I'm always lucky  <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
<br />
A couple of very experienced Power Scale installers encountered issues with the latest circuits and I made a decision to go back to the SB approach. It is fail safe. It always works. No one has ever had a problem with it as long as they mount the mosfets in a location where air moves over that part of the chassis. Even while the latest-greatest was going out, I was researching the expensive pot options to see what the impact would be on kit pricing.<br />
<br />
Frankly, I sometimes thought that I should have just raised the kit prices and kept on with the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> as they were.<br />
<br />
One of the issues with the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB</span> approach was that the Power Scale pot did not physically match the Drive Compensation pot. The expensive pot had far fewer options than standard pots do, requiring different knobs, or ending up with the knobs sitting at different heights. The solution is to get a dual version of the expensive pot, which is even more expensive and larger, making finding places for the two controls more difficult on some chassis. The dual could be used for a single-pot Power Scale solution in some circuits.<br />
<br />
Along with looking into the pot availability, I worked on the Automatic Drive Control issue which resulted in two kits to perform the drive compensation automatically. This means there only needs to be one panel control. There is a thread about that on this forum.<br />
<br />
All of the PCBs for the new kits have been ordered.<br />
<br />
Where the old-style SB module boards carry a single mosfet and its related components, the new <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> module has all of the high-voltage circuitry as one module, with any required interconnections already made. The ability to have different Va and Vs voltages is also accommodated. The Power Scale control ties to this, and there are pads to tie into the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> controllers, as required. There is also a provision to change the effective taper of the Power Scale pot to tailor the sweep of loudness to the individual player or amp designer. One of the "discoveries" in the recent search was that the previous variety of tapers is no longer offered.<br />
<br />
The circuit is still economical in complexity by being very simple and not needing too many parts, so circuit density is low. None of the parts are critical yet the end result is precise. The expensive pot has its one special characteristic but is otherwise as imprecise as every other kind of potentiometer, but the circuit designs makes that not matter.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> is an <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> + <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TBS,</span> and only requires the addition of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RBX </span>and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> or <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span> as needed.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> is an <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SBX</span> + <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VCK</span>, and only requires the addition of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM </span>and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> or <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H </span>as needed.<br />
<br />
I'm considering including the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC</span> in the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB1</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB2</span> package.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Power Scale Footswitching]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Power-Scale-Footswitching</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 12:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=530">Steve Ward</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I have an SV2-M36 in a cathode-biased 4×EL84 Rocket-style amp. <br />
In this amp the Powerscaling delivers an exceptional Overdrive or distortion sound. <br />
<br />
I would like to implement a footswitchable OD function which, when engaged, reduces the Power Scale setting by a proportional amount while simultaneously increasing a Lar-Mar PPIMV setting. It would also need to simultaneously reduce the reverb level.<br />
<br />
I’ve read the switching section in TUT4, where preset PS levels are selected using separate Power Scale controls/units. On the SV2-M36, is it practical to switch an additional resistor/network around the existing 1M PS control to lower the output voltage, or would you recommend a different method because of the DC voltage present on the PS control and any concerns around instant changes of power?<br />
I also have an ERK available. Can ERK/JFET switching safely be used anywhere in the SV2 control network, or should the PS function be switched with a relay/MOSFET arrangement instead?<br />
Current SV2 setup: 1M PS pot, R5 calibrated to about 262k effective, PS3 fixed at 164.2k, full-power regulator drop about 6V.<br />
<br />
<br />
best<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I have an SV2-M36 in a cathode-biased 4×EL84 Rocket-style amp. <br />
In this amp the Powerscaling delivers an exceptional Overdrive or distortion sound. <br />
<br />
I would like to implement a footswitchable OD function which, when engaged, reduces the Power Scale setting by a proportional amount while simultaneously increasing a Lar-Mar PPIMV setting. It would also need to simultaneously reduce the reverb level.<br />
<br />
I’ve read the switching section in TUT4, where preset PS levels are selected using separate Power Scale controls/units. On the SV2-M36, is it practical to switch an additional resistor/network around the existing 1M PS control to lower the output voltage, or would you recommend a different method because of the DC voltage present on the PS control and any concerns around instant changes of power?<br />
I also have an ERK available. Can ERK/JFET switching safely be used anywhere in the SV2 control network, or should the PS function be switched with a relay/MOSFET arrangement instead?<br />
Current SV2 setup: 1M PS pot, R5 calibrated to about 262k effective, PS3 fixed at 164.2k, full-power regulator drop about 6V.<br />
<br />
<br />
best<br />
<br />
Steve]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[SV2-M36 Voltages]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-SV2-M36-Voltages</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=530">Steve Ward</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I'm looking for some technical help.<br />
<br />
So I am in the  UK and shipping costs from Canada are quite expensive, so when I bought SV1 and RBX for an amp some time ago I also bought SV3 & VCK having a cathode biasdd amp planned.<br />
<br />
I finally got around to building that cathode biased 4 x el84 amp and after getting it all working correctly, I fitted the SV2–M36 and VCK.<br />
<br />
The amp is based on a trainwreck rocket which was based around an ac30, but I’ve put my own slant on it also adding a few extra features and enhanced cathode adjustment/separation.<br />
<br />
I’ve got the SV2-M36 working , but I’m seeing a fairly large voltage loss at full Power Scale and wondered whether this version needs tailoring for the amp’s B+.<br />
Raw B+ at M2 drain is about 336V. At PS fully clockwise, M2 source/output is only about 281–285V, so M2 is dropping around 55V. Gate-source is about +4.7V. PS1/PS2 at full CW are about 33.2/33.3V. <br />
The scaling otherwise works properly, although the 1M pot sweep gets to minimum voltage at less than half of its rotation, so I inserted a 500k trim pot and now the rotation is perfect. SV2 will take the output stage down to about 1V (I haven't rechecked this since inserting the 500k trimmer, having set by ear instead), and VCK is holding the downstream B3 supply very close to its original voltage. <br />
I’ve checked R1 and R9, replaced D1, repaired a poor R23 joint, and the FQU2N90S M1 tests normally. M2 is running around 80°C at full PS, versus about 50°C for M1. <br />
Is ~55V drop at full PS normal for the SV2-M36 at this B+, or should the QP4/QP5 control network be adjusted? If it should be lower, which resistor values would you recommend changing for a raw B+ of roughly 335–340V?<br />
Also I pulled all the power tubes and retested, still getting the large voltage drop so can confirm its not load related.<br />
<br />
I found somewhere that there might be some component values that could be tweaked to overcome this but not sure which ones and what values to try, any help would be greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
many thanks<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I'm looking for some technical help.<br />
<br />
So I am in the  UK and shipping costs from Canada are quite expensive, so when I bought SV1 and RBX for an amp some time ago I also bought SV3 & VCK having a cathode biasdd amp planned.<br />
<br />
I finally got around to building that cathode biased 4 x el84 amp and after getting it all working correctly, I fitted the SV2–M36 and VCK.<br />
<br />
The amp is based on a trainwreck rocket which was based around an ac30, but I’ve put my own slant on it also adding a few extra features and enhanced cathode adjustment/separation.<br />
<br />
I’ve got the SV2-M36 working , but I’m seeing a fairly large voltage loss at full Power Scale and wondered whether this version needs tailoring for the amp’s B+.<br />
Raw B+ at M2 drain is about 336V. At PS fully clockwise, M2 source/output is only about 281–285V, so M2 is dropping around 55V. Gate-source is about +4.7V. PS1/PS2 at full CW are about 33.2/33.3V. <br />
The scaling otherwise works properly, although the 1M pot sweep gets to minimum voltage at less than half of its rotation, so I inserted a 500k trim pot and now the rotation is perfect. SV2 will take the output stage down to about 1V (I haven't rechecked this since inserting the 500k trimmer, having set by ear instead), and VCK is holding the downstream B3 supply very close to its original voltage. <br />
I’ve checked R1 and R9, replaced D1, repaired a poor R23 joint, and the FQU2N90S M1 tests normally. M2 is running around 80°C at full PS, versus about 50°C for M1. <br />
Is ~55V drop at full PS normal for the SV2-M36 at this B+, or should the QP4/QP5 control network be adjusted? If it should be lower, which resistor values would you recommend changing for a raw B+ of roughly 335–340V?<br />
Also I pulled all the power tubes and retested, still getting the large voltage drop so can confirm its not load related.<br />
<br />
I found somewhere that there might be some component values that could be tweaked to overcome this but not sure which ones and what values to try, any help would be greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
many thanks<br />
<br />
Steve]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bias-modulated trem/vib Control]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Bias-modulated-trem-vib-Control</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Many Vox amps have bias-modulated tremolo which adds a wrinkle to Power Scaling such amps. Fender has their Vibrosonic amp, as well. In both cases the modulation signal is applied via the Depth control to the output stage grid-leaks either directly, or through a bias pot. We need a way to make this signal shrink as we dial Power Scale down to low-power.<br />
<br />
The easy solution is to use a p-jfet since it requires positive gate voltage to turn it 'off', wired as a shunt element across the Depth control. A series resistance is needed for the jfet to work against. This is the basis of our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> kit. We used the last type of p-channel jfet that was available as a through-hole device, i.e. a component with leads. Unfortunately it is obsolete as are so many devices suited to audio.<br />
<br />
So what would be the basis for <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> of the future?<br />
<br />
Ironically, the answer was another primitive device known as an LDR - light-dependent resistor. (The junction-field-effect transistor was one of the earliest semiconductors devised.)<br />
<br />
To achieve a functioning identical to the jfet circuit, the output of the LDR would have to be a high resistance that becomes a low resistance at low Power Scale settings. The LDR output is naturally 'high', so the control circuit has to provide more current to the LED input side of the LDR as power reduces. This requires that the LED be powered all the time but "held back" for full power and "let loose" at low power. This simply requires the use of current-steering as we saw in  <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT</span> chapter-9. Amps with bias-modulated tremolo have B+ of 350V to 450V, so I made the control range adaptable for 250V to 550V using two trimpots. The PCB for this circuit is 1.2" x 1.3" (29.4 x 31.9 mm) with space for a mounting bracket.<br />
<br />
An alternative approach adds variable resistance between the Depth control and the modulation point. Here, the default resistance is 'low' and attenuated resistance is 'high'. Although this seems contrary to how the LDR is inherently, the control circuitry becomes greatly simplified in the Power Scale situation. The board size is reduced to 0.9" square (22.1 mm square). Again, trimpots allow the stock supply voltage to be 250V to 550V. This board is <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM-L</span> (not on the site yet).<br />
<br />
<img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/attachtypes/pdf.png" title="Adobe Acrobat PDF" border="0" alt=".pdf" />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="attachment.php?aid=267" target="_blank" title="">TREM-H-L-pic.pdf</a> (Size: 21.58 KB / Downloads: 4)
]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Many Vox amps have bias-modulated tremolo which adds a wrinkle to Power Scaling such amps. Fender has their Vibrosonic amp, as well. In both cases the modulation signal is applied via the Depth control to the output stage grid-leaks either directly, or through a bias pot. We need a way to make this signal shrink as we dial Power Scale down to low-power.<br />
<br />
The easy solution is to use a p-jfet since it requires positive gate voltage to turn it 'off', wired as a shunt element across the Depth control. A series resistance is needed for the jfet to work against. This is the basis of our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> kit. We used the last type of p-channel jfet that was available as a through-hole device, i.e. a component with leads. Unfortunately it is obsolete as are so many devices suited to audio.<br />
<br />
So what would be the basis for <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM</span> of the future?<br />
<br />
Ironically, the answer was another primitive device known as an LDR - light-dependent resistor. (The junction-field-effect transistor was one of the earliest semiconductors devised.)<br />
<br />
To achieve a functioning identical to the jfet circuit, the output of the LDR would have to be a high resistance that becomes a low resistance at low Power Scale settings. The LDR output is naturally 'high', so the control circuit has to provide more current to the LED input side of the LDR as power reduces. This requires that the LED be powered all the time but "held back" for full power and "let loose" at low power. This simply requires the use of current-steering as we saw in  <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT</span> chapter-9. Amps with bias-modulated tremolo have B+ of 350V to 450V, so I made the control range adaptable for 250V to 550V using two trimpots. The PCB for this circuit is 1.2" x 1.3" (29.4 x 31.9 mm) with space for a mounting bracket.<br />
<br />
An alternative approach adds variable resistance between the Depth control and the modulation point. Here, the default resistance is 'low' and attenuated resistance is 'high'. Although this seems contrary to how the LDR is inherently, the control circuitry becomes greatly simplified in the Power Scale situation. The board size is reduced to 0.9" square (22.1 mm square). Again, trimpots allow the stock supply voltage to be 250V to 550V. This board is <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TREM-L</span> (not on the site yet).<br />
<br />
<img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/attachtypes/pdf.png" title="Adobe Acrobat PDF" border="0" alt=".pdf" />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="attachment.php?aid=267" target="_blank" title="">TREM-H-L-pic.pdf</a> (Size: 21.58 KB / Downloads: 4)
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			<title><![CDATA[Automatic Drive Compensation]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Automatic-Drive-Compensation</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 21:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Since the introduction of Power Scaling back in 1990, I have occasionally used automatic drive compensation in some amps I built, eliminating the need for the second control. At that time, I referred to the control as 'Limit' and the automated feature as 'Auto-limit'.<br />
<br />
Drive compensation is a necessity in a Power Scaled amplifier, but having a separate control for it is a turn-off for some players, and physically difficult in many installations. Some circuits are amenable to the "single-pot solution" using a dual pot to perform both functions (Power Scaling and drive compensation). However, a purely electronic approach is desired by many players and installers. To that end, I designed two kits that perform this function.<br />
<br />
Mickey Corrieri of Soultone amps asked me for help with an idea he had to automate the drive control using LDRs (light-dependent resistors). The LDRs are actually more than just a light-dependent resistor, as they have a light source built in and are a unitised opto-coupler. The light source could be neon lamps or LEDs (light emitting diodes). LDRs were used in Fender amps as the actual modulation element to couple the tremolo/vibrato oscillator to the audio path. Fender, Rivera, Mesa and many others used LDRs for channel and feature switches.<br />
<br />
As a drive compensator, there are two ways to wire the LDR output: in series with the signal or in parallel with it. The two situations require that the LDR resistance default to be 'low' or to be 'high', respectively. This requires two different types of control circuit, hence two different resulting kits: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span>. The natural default for an unpowered LDR unit is to have a high-resistance output.<br />
<br />
The Soultone application was specific inasmuch as the supply voltage is known and there was an auxiliary supply that could be used to power the LEDs of the LDRs. Standard LEDs can be current hogs, needing about 10mA to be lit to a level suitable as a front-panel or foot-switch box light. They can be driven with up to 25mA, some up to 50mA, for extra brightness. However, for the integrated LDR unit we only need a few milliamps for a useful range of output resistance. Mickey wanted to use the LDRs in series with the signal, for which the output resistance default had to be 'low'. This means for the full-power condition of the amp, the LEDs in the LDR have to be 'on'.  Using the auxiliary supply, there was no problem supplying LED current. We used current-steering (explained in TUT) to control the LED and thus the resistance imposed in the signal path. This was optimised for the LDRs he chose and for the voltage environment in the amp.<br />
<br />
The current-steering was actually "inverted" for his application and in retrospect could have been a current-mirror instead. This accommodates high-current LEDs in the most common LDRs.<br />
<br />
For a general purpose form of the custom application, I chose a different LDR with a more sensitive input, and whose data sheet shows the relationship between LED current and LDR resistance. This keeps waste heat to a minimum considering we want to track high-voltage and only use B+ for any other power required. The circuit is able to work properly in voltage environments ranging from 250V to 550V. For the signal control approach used above, the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L AutoDriveComp-Low-resistance</span> default would be the up-to-date circuit choice. It is highly simplified because the application introduces an inversion of the drive. This board is 1" square (25.4mm square).<br />
<br />
To shunt a standard MV requires that the default resistance be high. However, the tracked voltage moves in an opposite direction to the LDR resistance change we want, requiring that we go back to the current-steering approach and a larger board; 1.3" square (31.9mm square). The <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span> board defaults to a high LDR resistance and has to work against a fixed resistor in the audio circuit to form a voltage divider. Again, a supply voltage between 250V and 550V is accommodated. Both kits have trimpots so the control range can be calibrated to the supply voltage present. Both kits also have two LDRs with floating output resistances that can be used however they need to be. <br />
<br />
The kits are not on the site yet, but they are ordered and on their way.<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
Since the introduction of Power Scaling back in 1990, I have occasionally used automatic drive compensation in some amps I built, eliminating the need for the second control. At that time, I referred to the control as 'Limit' and the automated feature as 'Auto-limit'.<br />
<br />
Drive compensation is a necessity in a Power Scaled amplifier, but having a separate control for it is a turn-off for some players, and physically difficult in many installations. Some circuits are amenable to the "single-pot solution" using a dual pot to perform both functions (Power Scaling and drive compensation). However, a purely electronic approach is desired by many players and installers. To that end, I designed two kits that perform this function.<br />
<br />
Mickey Corrieri of Soultone amps asked me for help with an idea he had to automate the drive control using LDRs (light-dependent resistors). The LDRs are actually more than just a light-dependent resistor, as they have a light source built in and are a unitised opto-coupler. The light source could be neon lamps or LEDs (light emitting diodes). LDRs were used in Fender amps as the actual modulation element to couple the tremolo/vibrato oscillator to the audio path. Fender, Rivera, Mesa and many others used LDRs for channel and feature switches.<br />
<br />
As a drive compensator, there are two ways to wire the LDR output: in series with the signal or in parallel with it. The two situations require that the LDR resistance default to be 'low' or to be 'high', respectively. This requires two different types of control circuit, hence two different resulting kits: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span>. The natural default for an unpowered LDR unit is to have a high-resistance output.<br />
<br />
The Soultone application was specific inasmuch as the supply voltage is known and there was an auxiliary supply that could be used to power the LEDs of the LDRs. Standard LEDs can be current hogs, needing about 10mA to be lit to a level suitable as a front-panel or foot-switch box light. They can be driven with up to 25mA, some up to 50mA, for extra brightness. However, for the integrated LDR unit we only need a few milliamps for a useful range of output resistance. Mickey wanted to use the LDRs in series with the signal, for which the output resistance default had to be 'low'. This means for the full-power condition of the amp, the LEDs in the LDR have to be 'on'.  Using the auxiliary supply, there was no problem supplying LED current. We used current-steering (explained in TUT) to control the LED and thus the resistance imposed in the signal path. This was optimised for the LDRs he chose and for the voltage environment in the amp.<br />
<br />
The current-steering was actually "inverted" for his application and in retrospect could have been a current-mirror instead. This accommodates high-current LEDs in the most common LDRs.<br />
<br />
For a general purpose form of the custom application, I chose a different LDR with a more sensitive input, and whose data sheet shows the relationship between LED current and LDR resistance. This keeps waste heat to a minimum considering we want to track high-voltage and only use B+ for any other power required. The circuit is able to work properly in voltage environments ranging from 250V to 550V. For the signal control approach used above, the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-L AutoDriveComp-Low-resistance</span> default would be the up-to-date circuit choice. It is highly simplified because the application introduces an inversion of the drive. This board is 1" square (25.4mm square).<br />
<br />
To shunt a standard MV requires that the default resistance be high. However, the tracked voltage moves in an opposite direction to the LDR resistance change we want, requiring that we go back to the current-steering approach and a larger board; 1.3" square (31.9mm square). The <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ADC-H</span> board defaults to a high LDR resistance and has to work against a fixed resistor in the audio circuit to form a voltage divider. Again, a supply voltage between 250V and 550V is accommodated. Both kits have trimpots so the control range can be calibrated to the supply voltage present. Both kits also have two LDRs with floating output resistances that can be used however they need to be. <br />
<br />
The kits are not on the site yet, but they are ordered and on their way.<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Low-SPL Control Resolution]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Low-SPL-Control-Resolution</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
In the Precision Power Scale thread I discussed using a "build-out" resistor to improve the control resolution at the quiet end of the Power Scale sweep. This method can be applied to all previous Power Scale installations. Ideally, we want the "audible transition" of sound-to-silence to occur exactly at the end of the PS sweep. The value required depends on the supply voltage in the amp, the kit type, and how quiet you wish the minimum loudness to be.<br />
<br />
Classic-PS and the SB-series both have a build-out resistor already. The main purpose of the inclusion of this resistance was to keep the mosfets 'on' at the full-CCW end of the Power Scale pot sweep. However, if the sound disappears before full-CCW, then adding a bit more resistance in series with the pot-0 lead will be effective.  In these Power Scale forms, it may only take a few kiloOhms, maybe up to 10k, to achieve this AT alignment with the pot sweep.<br />
<br />
There were quite a few DC-PSK variations, and then the SF-series. The DC-PSK may require a build-out resistor up to 33k.<br />
<br />
The Super Value SV-series followed, with many variations as I tried to use component values within the kit to eliminate dead spots of the pot sweep. Build-out resistor values of 10k to 33k are typical. Dead sweep at the CW or CCW pot ends shift with the supply voltage, requiring a tweak of two resistor values in the kit to optimise it for a given B+.<br />
<br />
The Precision Power Scale Zh also needs a build-out resistor of 10k to 33k. I was too quick ordering these <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> Zh has no loud-end dead spot but will have a quiet-end dead spot without the build-out R.<br />
<br />
The Zp Precision Power Scale circuit has an on-board AT pot allowing the installer to set the audible transition EXACTLY. Zp has no dead spots and I believe it represents the ultimate performance in Power Scale kits.<br />
<br />
The Precision Power Scale kits are still labeled as SVn but with a Zh or Zp suffix, as SVn-Zh and SVn-Zp. The SV2-Z forms incorporate VCK, since VCK is always needed in Power Scaled cathode-biased amplifiers. VCK is still available separately as it has other applications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
In the Precision Power Scale thread I discussed using a "build-out" resistor to improve the control resolution at the quiet end of the Power Scale sweep. This method can be applied to all previous Power Scale installations. Ideally, we want the "audible transition" of sound-to-silence to occur exactly at the end of the PS sweep. The value required depends on the supply voltage in the amp, the kit type, and how quiet you wish the minimum loudness to be.<br />
<br />
Classic-PS and the SB-series both have a build-out resistor already. The main purpose of the inclusion of this resistance was to keep the mosfets 'on' at the full-CCW end of the Power Scale pot sweep. However, if the sound disappears before full-CCW, then adding a bit more resistance in series with the pot-0 lead will be effective.  In these Power Scale forms, it may only take a few kiloOhms, maybe up to 10k, to achieve this AT alignment with the pot sweep.<br />
<br />
There were quite a few DC-PSK variations, and then the SF-series. The DC-PSK may require a build-out resistor up to 33k.<br />
<br />
The Super Value SV-series followed, with many variations as I tried to use component values within the kit to eliminate dead spots of the pot sweep. Build-out resistor values of 10k to 33k are typical. Dead sweep at the CW or CCW pot ends shift with the supply voltage, requiring a tweak of two resistor values in the kit to optimise it for a given B+.<br />
<br />
The Precision Power Scale Zh also needs a build-out resistor of 10k to 33k. I was too quick ordering these <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> Zh has no loud-end dead spot but will have a quiet-end dead spot without the build-out R.<br />
<br />
The Zp Precision Power Scale circuit has an on-board AT pot allowing the installer to set the audible transition EXACTLY. Zp has no dead spots and I believe it represents the ultimate performance in Power Scale kits.<br />
<br />
The Precision Power Scale kits are still labeled as SVn but with a Zh or Zp suffix, as SVn-Zh and SVn-Zp. The SV2-Z forms incorporate VCK, since VCK is always needed in Power Scaled cathode-biased amplifiers. VCK is still available separately as it has other applications.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bias regulator output proportion]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
The bias regulator in SV1 and TBS Tracking Bias Supply have a feedback resistor that controls the proportion of bias voltage to screen voltage. In absolute numerical terms, we describe this as a percentage, where the bias voltage available to the bias pot is expressed as a percentage of the screen voltage at the tube.<br />
<br />
 Most large bottle power tubes (and 6V6) used in musical instrument amplifiers have about the same voltage gain and end up with very similar grid-voltage to screen voltage proportion, where |-Vb| is around 10% of Vs. This is the "target" control voltage. Some amplifiers are designed to only have this much bias voltage, for example Hiwatt, and there is no leeway to run the tubes cooler or to accommodate tubes with higher transconductance - these will red plate. As TUTs recommend, the bias pot should have closer to 15% at its 'cold' end to be able to turn off most tube samples.<br />
<br />
In our bias regulator, the feedback works against 330k, so we get these percentages for different Rfb values:<br />
56k2 provides 15%<br />
47k5 provides 13%<br />
36k0 provides 10%<br />
30k1 provides 8.5%<br />
<br />
The lower values are suitable for EL-84 and 8417.<br />
<br />
RBX Raw Bias Auxiliary Supply has a limited output, which is still higher than most stock bias supplies, but its applicability is reduced with higher percentage bias range combined with higher Vs, as follows:<br />
56k2 limits RBX to amps with Vs=560V<br />
47k5 limits RBX to amps with Vs=640V<br />
36k0 limits RBX to amps with Vs=840V<br />
30k1 limits RBX to amps with Vs=1kV]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
The bias regulator in SV1 and TBS Tracking Bias Supply have a feedback resistor that controls the proportion of bias voltage to screen voltage. In absolute numerical terms, we describe this as a percentage, where the bias voltage available to the bias pot is expressed as a percentage of the screen voltage at the tube.<br />
<br />
 Most large bottle power tubes (and 6V6) used in musical instrument amplifiers have about the same voltage gain and end up with very similar grid-voltage to screen voltage proportion, where |-Vb| is around 10% of Vs. This is the "target" control voltage. Some amplifiers are designed to only have this much bias voltage, for example Hiwatt, and there is no leeway to run the tubes cooler or to accommodate tubes with higher transconductance - these will red plate. As TUTs recommend, the bias pot should have closer to 15% at its 'cold' end to be able to turn off most tube samples.<br />
<br />
In our bias regulator, the feedback works against 330k, so we get these percentages for different Rfb values:<br />
56k2 provides 15%<br />
47k5 provides 13%<br />
36k0 provides 10%<br />
30k1 provides 8.5%<br />
<br />
The lower values are suitable for EL-84 and 8417.<br />
<br />
RBX Raw Bias Auxiliary Supply has a limited output, which is still higher than most stock bias supplies, but its applicability is reduced with higher percentage bias range combined with higher Vs, as follows:<br />
56k2 limits RBX to amps with Vs=560V<br />
47k5 limits RBX to amps with Vs=640V<br />
36k0 limits RBX to amps with Vs=840V<br />
30k1 limits RBX to amps with Vs=1kV]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[How much power do you need for guitar? bass?]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-How-much-power-do-you-need-for-guitar-bass</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 01:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=5">nauta</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[hey dudes<br />
<br />
I was wondering how much power you think is good for guitar? <br />
how much for bass?<br />
<br />
A couple of bass players I know think 100W is good enough for jamming and small gigs. I also know a guy who insists he needs his SVT. Ugh all these guys are using old ampeg tube heads but the 100watt guys have way lighter amps than the SVT. I can see why they like the lower power just on the basis of weight  lol<br />
<br />
bass seems to need a lot o power to sound as lloud as a guitar with a lot less power.<br />
<br />
i was at this outdoor party last summer. The band had all small amps one guitar had a 20W openback tweedy lookin thing but you could hear him a couple of km away. Not sure how much power the bass had but he was using a tiny cab and everyone was keeping up with the drums which fortunately werent too loud.<br />
<br />
My 100w Marshall was way to freakin loud so I got power scaling kits from KOC and now it is a sweet amp to play. sweet like rippin but not rippin my head off. I havent tried to measure how much power I use but it probably isnt even 20W with a drummer. just on my own its probably way on the down low man<br />
<br />
So whaddaya think/ how many watts do you have?<br />
<br />
peace (so we can hear the power chords)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[hey dudes<br />
<br />
I was wondering how much power you think is good for guitar? <br />
how much for bass?<br />
<br />
A couple of bass players I know think 100W is good enough for jamming and small gigs. I also know a guy who insists he needs his SVT. Ugh all these guys are using old ampeg tube heads but the 100watt guys have way lighter amps than the SVT. I can see why they like the lower power just on the basis of weight  lol<br />
<br />
bass seems to need a lot o power to sound as lloud as a guitar with a lot less power.<br />
<br />
i was at this outdoor party last summer. The band had all small amps one guitar had a 20W openback tweedy lookin thing but you could hear him a couple of km away. Not sure how much power the bass had but he was using a tiny cab and everyone was keeping up with the drums which fortunately werent too loud.<br />
<br />
My 100w Marshall was way to freakin loud so I got power scaling kits from KOC and now it is a sweet amp to play. sweet like rippin but not rippin my head off. I havent tried to measure how much power I use but it probably isnt even 20W with a drummer. just on my own its probably way on the down low man<br />
<br />
So whaddaya think/ how many watts do you have?<br />
<br />
peace (so we can hear the power chords)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Alternatives to Power Scaling?]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Alternatives-to-Power-Scaling</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2025 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> has been around for decades and has undergone continuous improvement and change as far as the kits go, but the goal and the performance overall has always been the same. We have been forced by parts availability issues to make wholesale circuit changes, such as the switch from the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB Super Budget</span> series that used an expensive mil-spec pot and a very simple circuit, to the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SV Super Versatile</span> kit series, when the special pot became exceedingly expensive. So, we designed it out and the kit became a little more complex to accommodate its absence. We tried to use the budget of the old pot as a guide for the new circuitry cost.<br />
<br />
Along the way, many amp builders, techs and hobbyists have tried to copy what we do. Most have since disappeared. One tech, Dana Hall, saw the original <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> circuit in an amp he was to design a PCB for and decided to market his own kit. He called it "vvr" for variable voltage regulator. It is a Human foible that when we see how something is done, we inevitably say, "Oh... I knew that". One might have been aware of the basic circuit yet never did they apply it how we did.<br />
<br />
Dana made his circuit simpler and changed the active current clamp to one that is hit and miss, depending on an unpredictable mosfet specification. It would have saved a component to leave this feature out. He also made a design choice that we described in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT4 (The Ultimate Tone volume 4)</span> as being "not preferred", because in some cases indirect control is preferred over direct control. For Dana this allowed another simplification and he sold his kit for a very low price benefiting a lot of players who wanted to make their amps quieter. He also sold his kits to a few amp builders who incorporated it into their products.<br />
<br />
One of the problems with Dana's interpretation of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span>, was that in most cases the whole amp is controlled. There are a few problems with doing this. One is that the amp tone changes with the power setting. This is distinctly not <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span>. The other problem is that every Volume pot that connects to a tube grid becomes "scratchy" when rotated. This is due to the changed DC current through the pot. The fix is to add a coupling cap to isolate the pot from DC, but this further requires that a grid-leak resistor be added for the tube grid as most guitar amps use the pot for that function.<br />
<br />
The scratchy pot problem extends all the way back to the input where the guitar is plugged in. Most tube guitar amps do not have a coupling cap at the input; rather, they have a direct DC connection. The guitar pot is suddenly behaving quite rudely!<br />
<br />
With <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> as offered originally, none of those issues existed. Only the output stage was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaled</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> had different issues that mostly made installation a little trickier, but once that was done correctly the tone stayed the same as one dialed the controls down. For the player, the main imposition was that there were two panel controls, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scale</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span>. Both had to be set about the same to retain the amp tone. They could be used independently to achieve three alternate performance ranges. Dana did not include the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span> control either out of further simplification or of simply not knowing why it was needed?<br />
<br />
Other things, such as Power Dampening, were a copy of Mesa-Boogie's Limit control from a specific bass amp model. This varied the bias to the Schmitt splitter and thus limited drive to the output stage and subsequently of output power. This approach has the scratchy pot problem which we fixed in our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SL-MV Splitter Limit Master Volume</span> kit. We added three components to the existing one, quadrupling complexity, but making the approach actually useful for anyone that might need to change the control setting more than once per performance.<br />
<br />
Marshall introduced a two-thirds form of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> on its Slash and Yngwie models. They followed the concepts presented in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SSH Secrets & Secret Holders</span>, but made an interpretive error in the execution. Their error is pretty common for techs and engineers not used to dealing with mosfets in power control positions in tube amplifiers for musical instruments. Yorkville Sound made the same error, although not in a variable power circuit, rather, in an active hum filter. In the Marshall amps, techs reported that if they disconnected the "Electronic Power Attenuator" that the amp sounded as it should, but once reconnected the amp sounded "stifled". Marshall combined the power control and drive compensation on a single control and that part worked inasmuch as the stifled sound was consistent over the loudness sweep.<br />
<br />
In electronics there are countless ways to achieve the same goal and every tech, engineer or hobbyist will try to re-invent everything to put their own mark on whatever they are attempting. Sometimes, the best and/or easiest ways have been found. It was said once with respect to our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> kits, "Kevin O'Connor likes complicated circuits". It is not that I like them so much as I believe in Einstein's wisdom: "A thing must be made simple enough to achieve the goal, but no simpler" So, for me I do not want to sacrifice performance niceties, such as "smoothness of control" or player ergonomics just to save pennies, or to have an aesthetically simpler circuit.<br />
<br />
All of the above is explained in much greater detail in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT4</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT6</span>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> has been around for decades and has undergone continuous improvement and change as far as the kits go, but the goal and the performance overall has always been the same. We have been forced by parts availability issues to make wholesale circuit changes, such as the switch from the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SB Super Budget</span> series that used an expensive mil-spec pot and a very simple circuit, to the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SV Super Versatile</span> kit series, when the special pot became exceedingly expensive. So, we designed it out and the kit became a little more complex to accommodate its absence. We tried to use the budget of the old pot as a guide for the new circuitry cost.<br />
<br />
Along the way, many amp builders, techs and hobbyists have tried to copy what we do. Most have since disappeared. One tech, Dana Hall, saw the original <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> circuit in an amp he was to design a PCB for and decided to market his own kit. He called it "vvr" for variable voltage regulator. It is a Human foible that when we see how something is done, we inevitably say, "Oh... I knew that". One might have been aware of the basic circuit yet never did they apply it how we did.<br />
<br />
Dana made his circuit simpler and changed the active current clamp to one that is hit and miss, depending on an unpredictable mosfet specification. It would have saved a component to leave this feature out. He also made a design choice that we described in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT4 (The Ultimate Tone volume 4)</span> as being "not preferred", because in some cases indirect control is preferred over direct control. For Dana this allowed another simplification and he sold his kit for a very low price benefiting a lot of players who wanted to make their amps quieter. He also sold his kits to a few amp builders who incorporated it into their products.<br />
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One of the problems with Dana's interpretation of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span>, was that in most cases the whole amp is controlled. There are a few problems with doing this. One is that the amp tone changes with the power setting. This is distinctly not <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span>. The other problem is that every Volume pot that connects to a tube grid becomes "scratchy" when rotated. This is due to the changed DC current through the pot. The fix is to add a coupling cap to isolate the pot from DC, but this further requires that a grid-leak resistor be added for the tube grid as most guitar amps use the pot for that function.<br />
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The scratchy pot problem extends all the way back to the input where the guitar is plugged in. Most tube guitar amps do not have a coupling cap at the input; rather, they have a direct DC connection. The guitar pot is suddenly behaving quite rudely!<br />
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With <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> as offered originally, none of those issues existed. Only the output stage was <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaled</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Classic-PS</span> had different issues that mostly made installation a little trickier, but once that was done correctly the tone stayed the same as one dialed the controls down. For the player, the main imposition was that there were two panel controls, <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scale</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span>. Both had to be set about the same to retain the amp tone. They could be used independently to achieve three alternate performance ranges. Dana did not include the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span> control either out of further simplification or of simply not knowing why it was needed?<br />
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Other things, such as Power Dampening, were a copy of Mesa-Boogie's Limit control from a specific bass amp model. This varied the bias to the Schmitt splitter and thus limited drive to the output stage and subsequently of output power. This approach has the scratchy pot problem which we fixed in our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SL-MV Splitter Limit Master Volume</span> kit. We added three components to the existing one, quadrupling complexity, but making the approach actually useful for anyone that might need to change the control setting more than once per performance.<br />
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Marshall introduced a two-thirds form of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> on its Slash and Yngwie models. They followed the concepts presented in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">SSH Secrets & Secret Holders</span>, but made an interpretive error in the execution. Their error is pretty common for techs and engineers not used to dealing with mosfets in power control positions in tube amplifiers for musical instruments. Yorkville Sound made the same error, although not in a variable power circuit, rather, in an active hum filter. In the Marshall amps, techs reported that if they disconnected the "Electronic Power Attenuator" that the amp sounded as it should, but once reconnected the amp sounded "stifled". Marshall combined the power control and drive compensation on a single control and that part worked inasmuch as the stifled sound was consistent over the loudness sweep.<br />
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In electronics there are countless ways to achieve the same goal and every tech, engineer or hobbyist will try to re-invent everything to put their own mark on whatever they are attempting. Sometimes, the best and/or easiest ways have been found. It was said once with respect to our <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Power Scaling</span> kits, "Kevin O'Connor likes complicated circuits". It is not that I like them so much as I believe in Einstein's wisdom: "A thing must be made simple enough to achieve the goal, but no simpler" So, for me I do not want to sacrifice performance niceties, such as "smoothness of control" or player ergonomics just to save pennies, or to have an aesthetically simpler circuit.<br />
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All of the above is explained in much greater detail in <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT4</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TUT6</span>.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Applicability of RBX Raw Bias Auxiliary Supply]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 17:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
The bias regulator used in our Power Scaling kits requires a higher raw bias supply voltage than many stock bias supplies provide AND a lower impedance. Bias supplies derived from the plate supply through high-value resistors DO allow an outrageous voltage to be attained, up to the absolute value of the B+. However this is at high-impedance. To make the bias regulator happy, the dropping resistor has to be made much lower in value, usually by paralleling many more resistors. This leads to an excess of heat in the chassis. The output of this supply needs a zener clamp as a minimum to protect the pass element of the bias regulator.<br />
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Other situations allow the stock bias winding to be separated from ground and a voltage doubler circuit to be implemented. This works reasonably well in Hiwatts, some Fenders and some Marshall amps.<br />
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Using an auxiliary transformer wired backwards and powered by the heater supply eliminates all of the concerns with the other methods, while providing a high-voltage at medium- to low-impedance. Our RBX Raw Bias Auxiliary Supply kit provides -84V with a typical bias-set network attached to the bias regulator output. With no load its output can pop up to -110V, but this is okay for the BJT in the regulator.<br />
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Readers of the TUTs (The Ultimate Tone series books), this forum and our FAQ will know that it is always a good idea to have excess sweep of the bias controls to allow complete turn-off of every tube sample. Usually, having 15% of the absolute screen voltage is sufficient. For example, if Vs=500V then -Vb should extend to -75V; for 400Vs, -60Vb, and so on. The target bias voltage for large-bottle tubes and 6V6 is around 10%, but we do not want to make the mistake of some amp companies of ONLY providing that amount of bias voltage as some tubes will red-plate and some will be stone cold.<br />
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From the numbers above we can see that there is a limit of compatible B+ for RBX. The bias regulator BJT can go to having zero volts across itself with -84V output. This would correspond to a screen voltage of 560Vs. For screen voltages higher than 560V RBX is inadequate for the task and the tubes will be overbiased and likely red-plate. The solution is to use a larger PT in the RBX format, i.e. go from 6VA to 12VA, then the output voltage will rise to almost double. An amp with 750Vs needs -113Vb with standard tubes to assure a proper control range of the tubes. Even at 600Vs, as in a Marshall Major, we need -90V for adequate controls, so RBX is not quite good enough there.<br />
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Note that the RBX PCB is sized only for 6VA transformers, which is suitable for the majority of amplifiers. For Vs>560V you would need a separate PT and RBX-LT with higher-voltage caps than usually provided.<br />
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Going to the larger auxiliary PT allows us to reconsider the decision of wiring the new PT forwards or backwards.The forward wiring has no loss per se and the output voltage will be as one would expect, allowing the use of the same 6VA PT provided this will support the bias-set network et al. We would need a 115Vac or so secondary. The primary can be a single or duals - with the 229-series from Hammond every PT has dual primaries and secondaries out of necessity of the design. The primaries are wired in series or parallel, as required for your mains, and the secondaries are wired in parallel. We now have enough bias voltage for Vs=800V. For higher Vs we wire the secondaries in series and regulate it down to a reasonable range less than 200V so as to protect the bias regulator BJT<br />
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Have fun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
The bias regulator used in our Power Scaling kits requires a higher raw bias supply voltage than many stock bias supplies provide AND a lower impedance. Bias supplies derived from the plate supply through high-value resistors DO allow an outrageous voltage to be attained, up to the absolute value of the B+. However this is at high-impedance. To make the bias regulator happy, the dropping resistor has to be made much lower in value, usually by paralleling many more resistors. This leads to an excess of heat in the chassis. The output of this supply needs a zener clamp as a minimum to protect the pass element of the bias regulator.<br />
<br />
Other situations allow the stock bias winding to be separated from ground and a voltage doubler circuit to be implemented. This works reasonably well in Hiwatts, some Fenders and some Marshall amps.<br />
<br />
Using an auxiliary transformer wired backwards and powered by the heater supply eliminates all of the concerns with the other methods, while providing a high-voltage at medium- to low-impedance. Our RBX Raw Bias Auxiliary Supply kit provides -84V with a typical bias-set network attached to the bias regulator output. With no load its output can pop up to -110V, but this is okay for the BJT in the regulator.<br />
<br />
Readers of the TUTs (The Ultimate Tone series books), this forum and our FAQ will know that it is always a good idea to have excess sweep of the bias controls to allow complete turn-off of every tube sample. Usually, having 15% of the absolute screen voltage is sufficient. For example, if Vs=500V then -Vb should extend to -75V; for 400Vs, -60Vb, and so on. The target bias voltage for large-bottle tubes and 6V6 is around 10%, but we do not want to make the mistake of some amp companies of ONLY providing that amount of bias voltage as some tubes will red-plate and some will be stone cold.<br />
<br />
From the numbers above we can see that there is a limit of compatible B+ for RBX. The bias regulator BJT can go to having zero volts across itself with -84V output. This would correspond to a screen voltage of 560Vs. For screen voltages higher than 560V RBX is inadequate for the task and the tubes will be overbiased and likely red-plate. The solution is to use a larger PT in the RBX format, i.e. go from 6VA to 12VA, then the output voltage will rise to almost double. An amp with 750Vs needs -113Vb with standard tubes to assure a proper control range of the tubes. Even at 600Vs, as in a Marshall Major, we need -90V for adequate controls, so RBX is not quite good enough there.<br />
<br />
Note that the RBX PCB is sized only for 6VA transformers, which is suitable for the majority of amplifiers. For Vs>560V you would need a separate PT and RBX-LT with higher-voltage caps than usually provided.<br />
<br />
Going to the larger auxiliary PT allows us to reconsider the decision of wiring the new PT forwards or backwards.The forward wiring has no loss per se and the output voltage will be as one would expect, allowing the use of the same 6VA PT provided this will support the bias-set network et al. We would need a 115Vac or so secondary. The primary can be a single or duals - with the 229-series from Hammond every PT has dual primaries and secondaries out of necessity of the design. The primaries are wired in series or parallel, as required for your mains, and the secondaries are wired in parallel. We now have enough bias voltage for Vs=800V. For higher Vs we wire the secondaries in series and regulate it down to a reasonable range less than 200V so as to protect the bias regulator BJT<br />
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Have fun]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Precision Power Scale Circuit]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Precision-Power-Scale-Circuit</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
In the quest towards a Power Scale circuit with "ideal" control, I developed some alternative circuits, some similar to the current kits and others that are quite different.<br />
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As discussed in the "Power Scale pot sweep" thread, the nominal issues are to avoid having dead spots in the sweep at the ends of the pot rotation, and to have reasonable resolution of control at the quiet end. One would suppose that the ideal solution would be to use an opamp with a tailored response to potentially allow the use of a common llinear pot but achieve a modified log control shape? Opamps are wonderful devices and there are lots of low-power types available. However, they introduce their own problems and would still require interfacing to the high-voltage circuitry. Feedback would definitely be incorporated, and would have to be fancy to achieve the response mentioned, as well as be stable over the entire range of input voltages. The kit afterall has to accommodate the whole range of supply voltages of all the guitar and bass amps on the market.<br />
<br />
Of course, it is simple enough to build a discrete high-voltage opamp with flexible input voltage capability, and that is one of the paths investigated. Over a supply voltage range of 200V up to 880V it worked perfectly after some refinements were added. In this design, both NPN and PNP transistors are used and even from the same manufacturer they are not available with the same voltage capabilities. Placing devices in series is a necessity - just like the current kits have - but three devices in cascode for the NPNs and two devices for the PNPs. This is only a minor inconvenience. For precision, all of the resistors are metal-film 1% 600mW types wired in parallel or series to achieve the required net values and to accommodate the heat dissipation at the highest input voltage. All of this adds up to a lot of components, so a "sandwich" board assembly is required, that is two PCBs that plug together and are parallel to each other.<br />
<br />
Overall, the high-voltage opamp approach can be made quite small. I laid out the first version using cordwood style resistor installation. The solder pads were too small and too tightly spaced and I could not see myself soldering it, nor the average hobbyist. Someone with fantastic soldering skills and/or a magnifier, and/or maybe someone who does some surface-mount soldering would have no problem. Anyway, I laid out a second then third version to make it more "buildable", which has all the Rs lying down (SVn-TH, not built or released).<br />
<br />
One of the amendments added to the circuit allowed "programmable" output voltage at the quiet end of the pot sweep. Four DIP switches allow this selection. There was a 4-way rotary switch alternative that turned out to be very low-quality. Overall, the control board began as slightly narrower than the present SV1 board width of 2.3" (59mm) and ended up slightly larger at 2.6" (66mm). The power board changes for SV1 and SV2 applications. The two boards plug together with 0.1" header pins and receptacles, then two bolts with lock nuts to secure them safely.<br />
<br />
I found that the heart of the programmable amendment could be added to the present kit circuit and that this greatly enhanced the sweep of the Power Scale pot. The minimum voltage is set to a fixed value and the pot sweep is very good. The board size for the SV1 increased by 0.15" (4mm) width and the SV2 remained at its present width. This keeps everything familiar for techs who have installed a lot of the current kits. These new versions are still called SV1 and SV2 as common designators, but have a smaller designation of SV1-M36 and SV2-M36. The 'M' designates a change to 1M pots for Power Scale and Drive Compensation, and the '36' refers to the 36k resistor in parallel with the PS pot. These boards arrive before the Holidays.<br />
<br />
One other amendment to the new kits is the use of 3W resistors in some positions. These are marked on the schematic and the PCB as there are still two positions using 1W of the same value. As always, it is best to sort all the parts before assembly.<br />
<br />
Have fun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
In the quest towards a Power Scale circuit with "ideal" control, I developed some alternative circuits, some similar to the current kits and others that are quite different.<br />
<br />
As discussed in the "Power Scale pot sweep" thread, the nominal issues are to avoid having dead spots in the sweep at the ends of the pot rotation, and to have reasonable resolution of control at the quiet end. One would suppose that the ideal solution would be to use an opamp with a tailored response to potentially allow the use of a common llinear pot but achieve a modified log control shape? Opamps are wonderful devices and there are lots of low-power types available. However, they introduce their own problems and would still require interfacing to the high-voltage circuitry. Feedback would definitely be incorporated, and would have to be fancy to achieve the response mentioned, as well as be stable over the entire range of input voltages. The kit afterall has to accommodate the whole range of supply voltages of all the guitar and bass amps on the market.<br />
<br />
Of course, it is simple enough to build a discrete high-voltage opamp with flexible input voltage capability, and that is one of the paths investigated. Over a supply voltage range of 200V up to 880V it worked perfectly after some refinements were added. In this design, both NPN and PNP transistors are used and even from the same manufacturer they are not available with the same voltage capabilities. Placing devices in series is a necessity - just like the current kits have - but three devices in cascode for the NPNs and two devices for the PNPs. This is only a minor inconvenience. For precision, all of the resistors are metal-film 1% 600mW types wired in parallel or series to achieve the required net values and to accommodate the heat dissipation at the highest input voltage. All of this adds up to a lot of components, so a "sandwich" board assembly is required, that is two PCBs that plug together and are parallel to each other.<br />
<br />
Overall, the high-voltage opamp approach can be made quite small. I laid out the first version using cordwood style resistor installation. The solder pads were too small and too tightly spaced and I could not see myself soldering it, nor the average hobbyist. Someone with fantastic soldering skills and/or a magnifier, and/or maybe someone who does some surface-mount soldering would have no problem. Anyway, I laid out a second then third version to make it more "buildable", which has all the Rs lying down (SVn-TH, not built or released).<br />
<br />
One of the amendments added to the circuit allowed "programmable" output voltage at the quiet end of the pot sweep. Four DIP switches allow this selection. There was a 4-way rotary switch alternative that turned out to be very low-quality. Overall, the control board began as slightly narrower than the present SV1 board width of 2.3" (59mm) and ended up slightly larger at 2.6" (66mm). The power board changes for SV1 and SV2 applications. The two boards plug together with 0.1" header pins and receptacles, then two bolts with lock nuts to secure them safely.<br />
<br />
I found that the heart of the programmable amendment could be added to the present kit circuit and that this greatly enhanced the sweep of the Power Scale pot. The minimum voltage is set to a fixed value and the pot sweep is very good. The board size for the SV1 increased by 0.15" (4mm) width and the SV2 remained at its present width. This keeps everything familiar for techs who have installed a lot of the current kits. These new versions are still called SV1 and SV2 as common designators, but have a smaller designation of SV1-M36 and SV2-M36. The 'M' designates a change to 1M pots for Power Scale and Drive Compensation, and the '36' refers to the 36k resistor in parallel with the PS pot. These boards arrive before the Holidays.<br />
<br />
One other amendment to the new kits is the use of 3W resistors in some positions. These are marked on the schematic and the PCB as there are still two positions using 1W of the same value. As always, it is best to sort all the parts before assembly.<br />
<br />
Have fun]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Selecting Speaker For Low Volumes??]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Selecting-Speaker-For-Low-Volumes</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone!  I'm interested in hear what opinions about what speakers work best for using Power Scaling and playing at low volumes.  I've had mixed success selecting speakers for this task.  I find that many speakers seem to have "minimum volume" needed to get them to start sound like themselves. It isn't too loud for stage but too much for practicing alone.   Some speakers especially the Celestion speakers I've tried sound sluggish at low volumes.  I've had more success with mid powered American voiced speaker like vintage C12Ns but of course that speaker doesn't work for all styles or amps.  What speakers do you guys have success with when using power scaled amps at lower volumes?  Are there certain specs I should be selecting for?  Any insight would be helpful!  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi everyone!  I'm interested in hear what opinions about what speakers work best for using Power Scaling and playing at low volumes.  I've had mixed success selecting speakers for this task.  I find that many speakers seem to have "minimum volume" needed to get them to start sound like themselves. It isn't too loud for stage but too much for practicing alone.   Some speakers especially the Celestion speakers I've tried sound sluggish at low volumes.  I've had more success with mid powered American voiced speaker like vintage C12Ns but of course that speaker doesn't work for all styles or amps.  What speakers do you guys have success with when using power scaled amps at lower volumes?  Are there certain specs I should be selecting for?  Any insight would be helpful!  Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[SV1 and SV2 assembly]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-SV1-and-SV2-assembly</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 15:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
If you are assembling SV1-Zh, SV1-Zp, SV2-Zh or SV2-Zp read this post for general guidelines, but see post-2 for specifics regarding the SVn-Z details.<br />
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The new kits are pretty tight, so the assembly order is important. The new boards are marked as SV1-D and SV2-D. The D refers to a much earlier circuit used in my amps, which I refer to as SD-1 (Super Design for fixed-bias). SD and SV are part of the Japanese-style naming <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Overview</span><br />
Cordwood construction is used to reduce the board size by about 30% from the previous layout. In this format, axial-lead components (mostly resistors) have one lead folded back to parallel the component body with both leads now pointing the same way. The silk-screening on the PCB shows how the formed part should be inserted to avoid having the folded leads touch each other.<br />
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The little transistors should be inserted by their SHAPE not by the written face. STM disregarded industry convention and labeled the BJTs on their backside (curved side). The middle-size transistor Q5 should be oriented by the side with writing on it facing into the board; ignore the embossed 'A' on the back.<br />
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Hopefully you have a 50-60W iron as a 25W type more easily leads to cold joints and overheated semiconductors. If you have a soldering station with variable temperature, select a hotter range 700-800F and use a conical tip. Also, use thin solder, say 1mm to 1.6mm, so solder connections can be made quickly. As always, use rosin-core solder meant for electronics, that is the 63-37 eutectic ratio, as this goes from solid to liquid without the intermediate plastic phase.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Assembly Details</span><br />
When I assemble an SV1 or SV2, I install the big mosfets first so they can be lined up nicely. I use a roll of electrical tape to support the PCB when soldering. You can use other types of tape or anything that is a handy height that allows the mosfets to rest on the bench top. To install transistor packages, push the leads all the way through the holes then slightly splay the outside leads outward. Now push the device back up until the height is what you want and the device is snug in the holes. With the big mosfets you want to make sure the two devices are the same height and straight, then flip the board and solder each pin. Cut each pin individually.<br />
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For all the other transistors do the same. With the small devices (Q2,7,8,9), you have to hold the transistor at an angle to the board, insert the outside pin closest to the board, then gently push and angle the device so the middle pin goes into its hole, then angle and push to insert the third pin. With the small transistors on SV1 and SV2 we leave the leads full length, so just push through 1-2mm (1/16") then make sure it is straight. Q5 is mounted similarly.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Assembly Order</span><br />
As I said, the big mosfets go in first. Be sure to ground yourself before opening the anti-static bag that holds the mosfets and thermopads.<br />
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Then I install all the diodes and the gate-stops (R9,13-1k) for the big mosfets to protect them from any static during the rest of the assembly.<br />
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Then all the small resistors that lie down go in.<br />
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Then I install the small transistors along the edge of the board (Q2,7,8,9) and then Q1. Q1 is usually shipped with formed leads and should grab onto the holes. Make sure it is straight.<br />
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Then R6 13k3 which is cordwood.<br />
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The rest of the resistors are cordwood, too, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">I put them in and solder them one at a time</span>.<br />
R12 1k between the big mosfets.<br />
R4, R21, R10, R22 150k-1Ws<br />
R7, R5, R11, R14, R15 330k-1W working across the board.<br />
Q6, then Q5, then C2 and C1.<br />
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C1 usually ships with formed leads, as well, as we want to avoid damaging the epoxy seal around the leads by simply splaying them.<br />
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Yes, you really must insert, solder and trim each of these parts one at a time to assure they are mounted straight and that the soldering is good.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Other Tips</span><br />
When mounting radial-lead electrolytic caps, the leads can be inserted through the holes and the cap body pushed all the way to the board. Then either splay the leads outward or pinch them inward. The pinch makes the cap tight to board for soldering . In either case, after you trim the leads you may need to make a hot adjustment to make the cap perpendicular to the PCB.<br />
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It is rare that you ever have to trim a component's leads before insertion into a board, so rare that I cannot bring any situation to mind.<br />
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When you trim the leads on transistor packages it is convenient to cut all three leads at the same time using side-cutters. The cutter jaws squeeze the pin and create a small burr on the trimmed lead in the axis of the jaws. For a low-voltage circuit this reduction of space between the pins is of little concern. However, SV1 and SV2 may have over 400V between the collector lead and the adjacent lead. Therefore, it is preferred to snip each lead individually with the axis of the jaws perpendicular to the axis of the line of three leads. This creates the burrs on the face of the lead pointing forward and rearward instead of side-to-side.<br />
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The pots come with small PCBs as the pots have PC pins rather than solder lugs. It is the convention with all PCBs that the component mounts on the silk-screened side of the board. For the pot boards, this aligns the X and 0 with the correct CW and CCW rotation of the pot. If you have an automatic wire stripper, vise, or stiff pliers, you can insert the shaft of the pot into this tool with the pot pins pointing up. Drop the PCB over the pins with the silk-screen side down facing the pot. Solder the middle pin while propping the board up so it is perpendicular to the pot leads. Now solder the outside pins.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Installation</span><br />
When installing the kit in the amp, dry fit the assembled unit where there is airflow over the outside of that chassis area. Mark and drill the mounting holes (3mm or 1/8") and deburr the holes on both the inside and outside of the chassis. Use a larger drill bit in hand to cut the burr and slightly chamfer the edges of the holes.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">DO NOT FORGET THE THERMOPADS WHEN SECURING THE BOARD IN ITS FINAL POSITION.</span><br />
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It may be easiest to solder wires to the board while it is still free, but each installation is unique and the dexterity of the installer is a factor.<br />
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You can "fly" the board for testing without tubes, or for other trouble-shooting without tubes. Place a piece of cardboard or other insulating material under the wired kit so it does not short to anything else in the amp. <br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">BE CAREFUL NOT TO TOUCH ANY OF THE MOSFET METAL BACKS OR BARE COMPONENT LEADS. It is easy to get a shock with a flying board that is live.</span><br />
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Have fun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
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If you are assembling SV1-Zh, SV1-Zp, SV2-Zh or SV2-Zp read this post for general guidelines, but see post-2 for specifics regarding the SVn-Z details.<br />
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The new kits are pretty tight, so the assembly order is important. The new boards are marked as SV1-D and SV2-D. The D refers to a much earlier circuit used in my amps, which I refer to as SD-1 (Super Design for fixed-bias). SD and SV are part of the Japanese-style naming <img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Overview</span><br />
Cordwood construction is used to reduce the board size by about 30% from the previous layout. In this format, axial-lead components (mostly resistors) have one lead folded back to parallel the component body with both leads now pointing the same way. The silk-screening on the PCB shows how the formed part should be inserted to avoid having the folded leads touch each other.<br />
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The little transistors should be inserted by their SHAPE not by the written face. STM disregarded industry convention and labeled the BJTs on their backside (curved side). The middle-size transistor Q5 should be oriented by the side with writing on it facing into the board; ignore the embossed 'A' on the back.<br />
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Hopefully you have a 50-60W iron as a 25W type more easily leads to cold joints and overheated semiconductors. If you have a soldering station with variable temperature, select a hotter range 700-800F and use a conical tip. Also, use thin solder, say 1mm to 1.6mm, so solder connections can be made quickly. As always, use rosin-core solder meant for electronics, that is the 63-37 eutectic ratio, as this goes from solid to liquid without the intermediate plastic phase.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Assembly Details</span><br />
When I assemble an SV1 or SV2, I install the big mosfets first so they can be lined up nicely. I use a roll of electrical tape to support the PCB when soldering. You can use other types of tape or anything that is a handy height that allows the mosfets to rest on the bench top. To install transistor packages, push the leads all the way through the holes then slightly splay the outside leads outward. Now push the device back up until the height is what you want and the device is snug in the holes. With the big mosfets you want to make sure the two devices are the same height and straight, then flip the board and solder each pin. Cut each pin individually.<br />
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For all the other transistors do the same. With the small devices (Q2,7,8,9), you have to hold the transistor at an angle to the board, insert the outside pin closest to the board, then gently push and angle the device so the middle pin goes into its hole, then angle and push to insert the third pin. With the small transistors on SV1 and SV2 we leave the leads full length, so just push through 1-2mm (1/16") then make sure it is straight. Q5 is mounted similarly.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Assembly Order</span><br />
As I said, the big mosfets go in first. Be sure to ground yourself before opening the anti-static bag that holds the mosfets and thermopads.<br />
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Then I install all the diodes and the gate-stops (R9,13-1k) for the big mosfets to protect them from any static during the rest of the assembly.<br />
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Then all the small resistors that lie down go in.<br />
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Then I install the small transistors along the edge of the board (Q2,7,8,9) and then Q1. Q1 is usually shipped with formed leads and should grab onto the holes. Make sure it is straight.<br />
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Then R6 13k3 which is cordwood.<br />
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The rest of the resistors are cordwood, too, and <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">I put them in and solder them one at a time</span>.<br />
R12 1k between the big mosfets.<br />
R4, R21, R10, R22 150k-1Ws<br />
R7, R5, R11, R14, R15 330k-1W working across the board.<br />
Q6, then Q5, then C2 and C1.<br />
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C1 usually ships with formed leads, as well, as we want to avoid damaging the epoxy seal around the leads by simply splaying them.<br />
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Yes, you really must insert, solder and trim each of these parts one at a time to assure they are mounted straight and that the soldering is good.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Other Tips</span><br />
When mounting radial-lead electrolytic caps, the leads can be inserted through the holes and the cap body pushed all the way to the board. Then either splay the leads outward or pinch them inward. The pinch makes the cap tight to board for soldering . In either case, after you trim the leads you may need to make a hot adjustment to make the cap perpendicular to the PCB.<br />
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It is rare that you ever have to trim a component's leads before insertion into a board, so rare that I cannot bring any situation to mind.<br />
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When you trim the leads on transistor packages it is convenient to cut all three leads at the same time using side-cutters. The cutter jaws squeeze the pin and create a small burr on the trimmed lead in the axis of the jaws. For a low-voltage circuit this reduction of space between the pins is of little concern. However, SV1 and SV2 may have over 400V between the collector lead and the adjacent lead. Therefore, it is preferred to snip each lead individually with the axis of the jaws perpendicular to the axis of the line of three leads. This creates the burrs on the face of the lead pointing forward and rearward instead of side-to-side.<br />
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The pots come with small PCBs as the pots have PC pins rather than solder lugs. It is the convention with all PCBs that the component mounts on the silk-screened side of the board. For the pot boards, this aligns the X and 0 with the correct CW and CCW rotation of the pot. If you have an automatic wire stripper, vise, or stiff pliers, you can insert the shaft of the pot into this tool with the pot pins pointing up. Drop the PCB over the pins with the silk-screen side down facing the pot. Solder the middle pin while propping the board up so it is perpendicular to the pot leads. Now solder the outside pins.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Installation</span><br />
When installing the kit in the amp, dry fit the assembled unit where there is airflow over the outside of that chassis area. Mark and drill the mounting holes (3mm or 1/8") and deburr the holes on both the inside and outside of the chassis. Use a larger drill bit in hand to cut the burr and slightly chamfer the edges of the holes.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">DO NOT FORGET THE THERMOPADS WHEN SECURING THE BOARD IN ITS FINAL POSITION.</span><br />
<br />
It may be easiest to solder wires to the board while it is still free, but each installation is unique and the dexterity of the installer is a factor.<br />
<br />
You can "fly" the board for testing without tubes, or for other trouble-shooting without tubes. Place a piece of cardboard or other insulating material under the wired kit so it does not short to anything else in the amp. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">BE CAREFUL NOT TO TOUCH ANY OF THE MOSFET METAL BACKS OR BARE COMPONENT LEADS. It is easy to get a shock with a flying board that is live.</span><br />
<br />
Have fun]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Power Scale pot sweep]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Power-Scale-pot-sweep</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">K O'Connor</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
There is a compromise in the Power Scale pot sweep, depending on the specific Power Scale circuit, the supply voltage, and the amplifier.<br />
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With the older SB-style approach using the mil-spec pot, the original kit offering incorporated a linear pot. It is easy to see on a scope or meter the direct relationship between the pot setting and the output voltage. Due to the logarithmic nature of our hearing, a linear pot is not a good choice, so, we changed to a log pot. Linear is good when using the circuit for a bench supply. The power change follows a squared curve, and a log-squared curve, respectively, and the latter ended up providing better low-loudness resolution of control.<br />
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With the newer Power Scale kits (those using a noncritical pot), there is a compromise that causes a dead spot in the sweep at one end or the other, or at both ends. The dead spot at the top end means no voltage change occurs over that part of the sweep. This is not too critical for most players once they get used to the fact that you will not hear a loudness change until you get to the power level you are actually using - which is lower than they think. But... to the player this means the useful range of the pot is smaller.<br />
<br />
A dead spot at the low end means the amp has gone completely quiet or off before the end of the pot sweep. How big this dead spot is is a bit more concerning from an ergonomic view. In the present SVn-D kits (obsoleted early 2026), R1,2,3 form a voltage divider with the Power Scale pot in parallel with R2. The divider values are chosen to give a 100x power reduction with the pot set to 12-o'clock, and to go to zero volts at full sweep. Most amps will be silent at some positive voltage out of SV, so getting to a true zero is not necessary, more aesthetic. With R2=47k5 and R3=1k the output can go to zero, but changing to R2=43k2 or 44k2 and R3=2k21 gives  better sweep overall.<br />
<br />
Have fun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Guys<br />
<br />
There is a compromise in the Power Scale pot sweep, depending on the specific Power Scale circuit, the supply voltage, and the amplifier.<br />
<br />
With the older SB-style approach using the mil-spec pot, the original kit offering incorporated a linear pot. It is easy to see on a scope or meter the direct relationship between the pot setting and the output voltage. Due to the logarithmic nature of our hearing, a linear pot is not a good choice, so, we changed to a log pot. Linear is good when using the circuit for a bench supply. The power change follows a squared curve, and a log-squared curve, respectively, and the latter ended up providing better low-loudness resolution of control.<br />
<br />
With the newer Power Scale kits (those using a noncritical pot), there is a compromise that causes a dead spot in the sweep at one end or the other, or at both ends. The dead spot at the top end means no voltage change occurs over that part of the sweep. This is not too critical for most players once they get used to the fact that you will not hear a loudness change until you get to the power level you are actually using - which is lower than they think. But... to the player this means the useful range of the pot is smaller.<br />
<br />
A dead spot at the low end means the amp has gone completely quiet or off before the end of the pot sweep. How big this dead spot is is a bit more concerning from an ergonomic view. In the present SVn-D kits (obsoleted early 2026), R1,2,3 form a voltage divider with the Power Scale pot in parallel with R2. The divider values are chosen to give a 100x power reduction with the pot set to 12-o'clock, and to go to zero volts at full sweep. Most amps will be silent at some positive voltage out of SV, so getting to a true zero is not necessary, more aesthetic. With R2=47k5 and R3=1k the output can go to zero, but changing to R2=43k2 or 44k2 and R3=2k21 gives  better sweep overall.<br />
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Have fun]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Upgrading the VHT "WATTS" Circuit]]></title>
			<link>https://theultimatetone.com/Thread-Upgrading-the-VHT-WATTS-Circuit</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 08:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://theultimatetone.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=407">Looselectron</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi! They call me Adam Smith. <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">What do I do to an amp that has a MOSFET voltage controller for its power tubes that FAILED TWICE?? </span><br />
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First of all, I ordered a replacement. At the same time, I ordered the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">SV2+VCK kit </span></span>for my <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VHT Special 12/20RT</span> head but the instructions say <span style="color: #ff4136;" class="mycode_color">make sure it's working properly without power scaling.</span> I think I have the amp<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> almost working without </span>the original voltage starvation circuit but need to compare the test voltages against my <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">second</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VHT Special 12/20RT </span>combo (for a stereo rig) that still works...for now. <br />

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It occurred to me to try installing the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VCK</span> first in the working combo to see if it makes any difference with the existing WATTS circuit before the SV2 in the head I have on the bench. Interestingly these amps have a <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">RETURN control</span> on the effects loop which effectively works like a <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">master volume</span> so I think I can safely omit the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span></span> control for this installation. 
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Updates to follow...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi! They call me Adam Smith. <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">What do I do to an amp that has a MOSFET voltage controller for its power tubes that FAILED TWICE?? </span><br />
<br />
First of all, I ordered a replacement. At the same time, I ordered the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">SV2+VCK kit </span></span>for my <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VHT Special 12/20RT</span> head but the instructions say <span style="color: #ff4136;" class="mycode_color">make sure it's working properly without power scaling.</span> I think I have the amp<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> almost working without </span>the original voltage starvation circuit but need to compare the test voltages against my <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">second</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VHT Special 12/20RT </span>combo (for a stereo rig) that still works...for now. <br />

<br />
<img src="https://theultimatetone.com/images/attachtypes/image.png" title="PNG Image" border="0" alt=".png" />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="attachment.php?aid=173" target="_blank" title="">Screenshot 2024-02-01 at 17.37.28.png</a> (Size: 137.54 KB / Downloads: 60)
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<br />
It occurred to me to try installing the <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">VCK</span> first in the working combo to see if it makes any difference with the existing WATTS circuit before the SV2 in the head I have on the bench. Interestingly these amps have a <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">RETURN control</span> on the effects loop which effectively works like a <span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">master volume</span> so I think I can safely omit the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Drive Compensation</span></span> control for this installation. 
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