06-10-2021, 04:50 PM
(01-04-2021, 04:01 AM)NGW Wrote: Hi Kevin,This is another interesting input circuit. I, too, initially wanted to say "call cascode", but there are so many variations of vertical/totem-pole things we don't see very often, I easily confuse them.
Thanks for explaining this.
I have scanned the complete Albion schematic and attached it for your reference.
Is this a normal level of gain for this type of circuit and if so, why would you want that much signal slamming the grid of the next stage?
I had considered that removing C3 may cut the gain a fair bit, but it is a radial electro and is glued to the PCB; too much trouble to remove.
The Input Stage is stock and I am surprised they didn't just use a normal 12AX7 stage.
I was concerned about resistor noise with the high series R and I intended reducing R and shunting the Gain pot, once I found a suitable divider ratio, but there is no perceptible noise, so I left it as is.
The out of phase channels don't pose any problems and the channel switching removes the non operating channel - without any bleed through.
R82 was also 100k and I changed it to 10k because it allowed too much OD, even with Drive at 0.
Grid Stops were a worry to me also, but surprisingly, there was no indication of any problems, but I added the 330k stopper to V2B to cut some Treble and add a bit of insurance. I may add some stoppers, to the stages that have none, as a safeguard.
The Source Follower driving the Tone Stack is stock, as is all of the A channel; apart from R8, which I changed to 3k9, because we preferred the tone.
Would it be wise to increase R15?
With the effective load of 175k on V2B, I figured a gain of 21 and I measure an actual gain of less than 12. What do you think?
I am not fussed on Bright Caps on pots either and I may remove C61, although I haven't noticed any undesirable effects from it. Maybe the series 470k negates a lot of the treble bleed?
The A channel does have a good OD, but it is used purely as a Clean channel only. VR1 & VR2 provide useful tone variations; I like controls.
Thanks again for all your help and we are having fun, despite the pandemic.
Cheers, Noel.
I understand a JFET or MOSFET current source with a glass triode...but a glass current source for a MOSFET...it's Albion's amp...they can do what they want...there was a half 12AX7 available, no extra real estate or filament current, but...but...
I poked around online while my registration was processing...
I no longer see cascode. Not enough parts for a cascode party.
I did see something interesting (if only from an armchair, if not a workbench)...John Broskie/TubeCad's depiction of a vertical FET-triode casCADE, with the triode upper device using its cathode as a 2nd input.
I should know better than to ask "why?" in audio, whether hifi or guitar...because the designer wanted to, and/or liked the way it sounded.
I'll just be quiet & keep reading...
But one more thought...since the OP's question was about analysis of a cascode, I thought of Ulrich Neumann's Solo hybrid amp.
He starts out discussing an example of a popular Vox amp that cascoded a JFET & triode, then ends up with a LND150 on top of a JFET (J113, I think). In the book, he thoroughly covers how to handle noise, JFET deviations from desired parameter values, and how much gain it can deliver.
Since his example IS a cascode, it has the typical high output impedance, probably needing a follower of some kind to buffer it.
Murray


